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		By: Sarah		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mark has reposted this article. Is there an update to the owner of the barn. Did she have to go to court to explain why Kits condition got to be so bad?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark has reposted this article. Is there an update to the owner of the barn. Did she have to go to court to explain why Kits condition got to be so bad?</p>
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		By: Teddie Ziegler		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://teddiezieglerhorsemanship.com/they-are-still-out-there-part-i/#comments/2350&quot;&gt;Julie&lt;/a&gt;.

I absolutely agree with you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://teddiezieglerhorsemanship.com/they-are-still-out-there-part-i/#comments/2350">Julie</a>.</p>
<p>I absolutely agree with you.</p>
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		By: Julie		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[My first question is: where was the owner? Why would anyone board a horse somewhere new and not go check in weekly to make sure your horse is receiving the absolute BEST care?

Why would you completely trust a stranger with your animal and never come and check on him or her?
Second question is: why is this person still in business? Why hasn&#039;t she been turned into authorities? 

If you are going to own a horse and board it somewhere, then be a proper owner and check on your horse. Spend time with your horse or give the animal to someone that can and will!

My point is that Kit would never have been in this condition had his owner taken proper responsibility! You can give a trailer full of feed to a boarding facility but it is your responsibility to make sure they are feeding and caring for your animal!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first question is: where was the owner? Why would anyone board a horse somewhere new and not go check in weekly to make sure your horse is receiving the absolute BEST care?</p>
<p>Why would you completely trust a stranger with your animal and never come and check on him or her?<br />
Second question is: why is this person still in business? Why hasn&#039;t she been turned into authorities? </p>
<p>If you are going to own a horse and board it somewhere, then be a proper owner and check on your horse. Spend time with your horse or give the animal to someone that can and will!</p>
<p>My point is that Kit would never have been in this condition had his owner taken proper responsibility! You can give a trailer full of feed to a boarding facility but it is your responsibility to make sure they are feeding and caring for your animal!</p>
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		By: Teddie Ziegler		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://teddiezieglerhorsemanship.com/they-are-still-out-there-part-i/#comments/2333&quot;&gt;Kathy&lt;/a&gt;.

It was heartbreaking.  I wish I could have taken him then and there, but I had no where to take him.  I&#039;ve finally found a place, but things have changed. I am taking the best care I can of him and he is progressing nicely.  Still has a way to go though.  There seems to be a light at the end of the tunnel and he should be moved in a week or so.  Fingers crossed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://teddiezieglerhorsemanship.com/they-are-still-out-there-part-i/#comments/2333">Kathy</a>.</p>
<p>It was heartbreaking.  I wish I could have taken him then and there, but I had no where to take him.  I&#8217;ve finally found a place, but things have changed. I am taking the best care I can of him and he is progressing nicely.  Still has a way to go though.  There seems to be a light at the end of the tunnel and he should be moved in a week or so.  Fingers crossed.</p>
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		By: Kathy		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Poor Kit, it must have broken your heart to see him like this <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/72x72/2639.png" alt="☹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />
... please tell me you took him home right there and then???
I sure hope he will be all right, this is such a case of horrid cruelty.
Teddie, you can’t leave us hanging like this!!!
Kathy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Kit, it must have broken your heart to see him like this ☹<br />
&#8230; please tell me you took him home right there and then???<br />
I sure hope he will be all right, this is such a case of horrid cruelty.<br />
Teddie, you can’t leave us hanging like this!!!<br />
Kathy</p>
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		By: Teddie Ziegler		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://teddiezieglerhorsemanship.com/they-are-still-out-there-part-i/#comments/2329&quot;&gt;Pam Schroeder&lt;/a&gt;.

I feel the exact same way Pam!  I, of course took action, but Kit #1 was not able to be moved as he was so weak and #2 there was no place to move him to.  I have frantically been looking and finally found a solution.  A place that houses stallions here is few and far between.  And since he is 28 years old, gelding him is not a possibility.

And his story is not finished yet.  I&#039;m writing these blogs as they are happening.  But in the mean time I am there every day and he is in my care 100%.  I&#039;ve had the vet out, which of course she never did.  I talked to the owner, which she never did.  Everyone on that farm has been told they are not allowed to touch him, let him out, or feed him.  I am in charge of his recovery. The vet is also taking a personal interest in this &quot;rescue&quot; as he calls it.  A project of love.

And I&#039;m working with the owner to resolve this nightmare ASAP.  Unfortunately, there is only so much I can do not being the owner, but you better believe I am making my voice heard and not taking no for any answer!  The horse is always first in my book.  I am doing everything in my power and I&#039;ve already contacted animal control.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://teddiezieglerhorsemanship.com/they-are-still-out-there-part-i/#comments/2329">Pam Schroeder</a>.</p>
<p>I feel the exact same way Pam!  I, of course took action, but Kit #1 was not able to be moved as he was so weak and #2 there was no place to move him to.  I have frantically been looking and finally found a solution.  A place that houses stallions here is few and far between.  And since he is 28 years old, gelding him is not a possibility.</p>
<p>And his story is not finished yet.  I&#8217;m writing these blogs as they are happening.  But in the mean time I am there every day and he is in my care 100%.  I&#8217;ve had the vet out, which of course she never did.  I talked to the owner, which she never did.  Everyone on that farm has been told they are not allowed to touch him, let him out, or feed him.  I am in charge of his recovery. The vet is also taking a personal interest in this &#8220;rescue&#8221; as he calls it.  A project of love.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m working with the owner to resolve this nightmare ASAP.  Unfortunately, there is only so much I can do not being the owner, but you better believe I am making my voice heard and not taking no for any answer!  The horse is always first in my book.  I am doing everything in my power and I&#8217;ve already contacted animal control.</p>
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		By: Teddie Ziegler		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://teddiezieglerhorsemanship.com/they-are-still-out-there-part-i/#comments/2330&quot;&gt;Juliet Allnutt&lt;/a&gt;.

I completely agree with you Juliet.  There were a few other people around who should have done something.  At the very lease contact the owner and let her know.  And his trust in humans has been destroyed.  It took him 7 days to even &quot;speak&quot; to me again.  He was happy to see me, but pissed at the same time.  I don&#039;t blame him.  It broke my heart that no-one else took care of him.  But I have promised him that I will never leave his side for the rest of his life and I won&#039;t let anyone else tell me otherwise.  He knew what I was saying too.  He just put his head on my shoulder and stayed there relaxing into me for about 5 minutes.  You could feel his relief.  He doesn&#039;t trust humans, but I&#039;m glad he still trusts me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://teddiezieglerhorsemanship.com/they-are-still-out-there-part-i/#comments/2330">Juliet Allnutt</a>.</p>
<p>I completely agree with you Juliet.  There were a few other people around who should have done something.  At the very lease contact the owner and let her know.  And his trust in humans has been destroyed.  It took him 7 days to even &#8220;speak&#8221; to me again.  He was happy to see me, but pissed at the same time.  I don&#8217;t blame him.  It broke my heart that no-one else took care of him.  But I have promised him that I will never leave his side for the rest of his life and I won&#8217;t let anyone else tell me otherwise.  He knew what I was saying too.  He just put his head on my shoulder and stayed there relaxing into me for about 5 minutes.  You could feel his relief.  He doesn&#8217;t trust humans, but I&#8217;m glad he still trusts me.</p>
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		By: Juliet Allnutt		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Horrifying!  I don&#039;t know why Kit was sent to a livery yard or the reasons the owner was unable to monitor what was happening to him, but if I were them I would be suing that yard and get animal welfare involved.  Didn&#039;t anyone else there notice his condition?  There are no excuses for a professional establishment allowing a horse in their care to get in this state.  Poor Kit.  After all you have done to get his confidence and trust back in the human race, you have every right to &#034;lose it&#034; with the yard owner.  Kit&#039;s mental state as well as his physical body have been damaged by a callous uncaring person who thinks they know best and are blind to the evidence to the contrary.  Unbelievable!  
I followed your Stallion series and I hope you will be able to quickly get Kit back into your care so he can recover from his ordeal in a loving and understanding environment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horrifying!  I don&#8217;t know why Kit was sent to a livery yard or the reasons the owner was unable to monitor what was happening to him, but if I were them I would be suing that yard and get animal welfare involved.  Didn&#039;t anyone else there notice his condition?  There are no excuses for a professional establishment allowing a horse in their care to get in this state.  Poor Kit.  After all you have done to get his confidence and trust back in the human race, you have every right to &quot;lose it&quot; with the yard owner.  Kit&#039;s mental state as well as his physical body have been damaged by a callous uncaring person who thinks they know best and are blind to the evidence to the contrary.  Unbelievable!<br />
I followed your Stallion series and I hope you will be able to quickly get Kit back into your care so he can recover from his ordeal in a loving and understanding environment.</p>
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		By: Pam Schroeder		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[OMG Teddie - I am very sad to see that Kit in that condition!!!  Unfortunately, I find this more than not.  These boarding facilities just want to make the money, but have NO concern for the horse at all.  They seem to miss the concept that if you keep the horse in good condition , that the horse thrives, the horse owner is happy and they get to keep the horse longer.  I am so surprised that Kit didn&#039;t die during this experience.  Glad he was strong, but sorry that this had to occur at all.  

Most owners think that the boarding facility is taking care of their animal - My ? is &#034;Where is this owner?  Did she not visit the horse once?  If he is still a stallion, most boarding facilities are NOT equip to handle a stallion.  

This is complete disregard of this boarding facility (which should NOT be called that at all)- Again which I hear about at boarding facilities across the nation.  Good hearted people leave their horses in the care of these ignorant people.  Again, my statement is: If you do not treat your horse like part of the family, You should NOT have a horse.  Would you leave your child at at a boarding school and NOT go see them, are you NOT concerned how they are getting along?

If the  answer is that you would go and check on them - Then WHY would you not go and check on  your horse?  If you were NOT going to ride him after having training - then sell him, geld him if you are NOT going to use him as a stallion!

I am so glad that you went to visit Kit, but disappointed that you found him in this condition, because I am sure &#039;He wanted to die being in the care of this woman and very surprised he didn&#039;t.  Cause she would have NOT even called a vet.  I would not have been able to leave him there, and the owner would have to be called immediately as well.  If no one wanted to do anything - I would have had to do something immediately.  But, that poor horse would of had to be moved from this facility immediately and after I got him out  - I would have this boarding facility investigated.  I wonder how many horses have perished because of such mismanagement.  

I will wait till next week to here your answer, but I know you TOOK ACTION.  

I am NOT a boarding facility but many customers have had situations like this or worse and begged me to take their horses in, which I have done successfully and turned their horses around.  Some customers  had lost a horse at the hands of one of these types of individuals, or so called boarding facilities (which they should NOT be called).  These are torture facilities, these people must of come from slaughter house mentality.  I do NOT know what is wrong with them, but this is a pretty common practice still. 

A true boarding facility takes care of the horses needs, # 1 is following the instructions of the owners who left them in your care!  If you cannot do this simple task - Do NOT call yourself a boarding facility!  That means giving him the feed he came with, minerals, turnout, simple basic care.  If you see he&#039;s dropping weight - let the owner know immediately.  Does he need his teeth floated, have the vet come in to take blood tests, etc...  

Whatever is necessary for the horse to THRIVE!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG Teddie &#8211; I am very sad to see that Kit in that condition!!!  Unfortunately, I find this more than not.  These boarding facilities just want to make the money, but have NO concern for the horse at all.  They seem to miss the concept that if you keep the horse in good condition , that the horse thrives, the horse owner is happy and they get to keep the horse longer.  I am so surprised that Kit didn&#039;t die during this experience.  Glad he was strong, but sorry that this had to occur at all.  </p>
<p>Most owners think that the boarding facility is taking care of their animal &#8211; My ? is &quot;Where is this owner?  Did she not visit the horse once?  If he is still a stallion, most boarding facilities are NOT equip to handle a stallion.  </p>
<p>This is complete disregard of this boarding facility (which should NOT be called that at all)- Again which I hear about at boarding facilities across the nation.  Good hearted people leave their horses in the care of these ignorant people.  Again, my statement is: If you do not treat your horse like part of the family, You should NOT have a horse.  Would you leave your child at at a boarding school and NOT go see them, are you NOT concerned how they are getting along?</p>
<p>If the  answer is that you would go and check on them &#8211; Then WHY would you not go and check on  your horse?  If you were NOT going to ride him after having training &#8211; then sell him, geld him if you are NOT going to use him as a stallion!</p>
<p>I am so glad that you went to visit Kit, but disappointed that you found him in this condition, because I am sure &#039;He wanted to die being in the care of this woman and very surprised he didn&#039;t.  Cause she would have NOT even called a vet.  I would not have been able to leave him there, and the owner would have to be called immediately as well.  If no one wanted to do anything &#8211; I would have had to do something immediately.  But, that poor horse would of had to be moved from this facility immediately and after I got him out  &#8211; I would have this boarding facility investigated.  I wonder how many horses have perished because of such mismanagement.  </p>
<p>I will wait till next week to here your answer, but I know you TOOK ACTION.  </p>
<p>I am NOT a boarding facility but many customers have had situations like this or worse and begged me to take their horses in, which I have done successfully and turned their horses around.  Some customers  had lost a horse at the hands of one of these types of individuals, or so called boarding facilities (which they should NOT be called).  These are torture facilities, these people must of come from slaughter house mentality.  I do NOT know what is wrong with them, but this is a pretty common practice still. </p>
<p>A true boarding facility takes care of the horses needs, # 1 is following the instructions of the owners who left them in your care!  If you cannot do this simple task &#8211; Do NOT call yourself a boarding facility!  That means giving him the feed he came with, minerals, turnout, simple basic care.  If you see he&#039;s dropping weight &#8211; let the owner know immediately.  Does he need his teeth floated, have the vet come in to take blood tests, etc&#8230;  </p>
<p>Whatever is necessary for the horse to THRIVE!</p>
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		By: Teddie Ziegler		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://teddiezieglerhorsemanship.com/they-are-still-out-there-part-i/#comments/2305&quot;&gt;Sarah&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree Sarah.  I&#039;m hoping for a happy ending too.]]></description>
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<p>I agree Sarah.  I&#8217;m hoping for a happy ending too.</p>
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